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MOS COMPARISON

0111 vs 5811

Administrative Specialist (USMC) vs Military Police (USMC)

Intel

Same Corps, same Commandant's Birthday Ball, same dress blues — wildly different reasons to need a drink at all three.

If you asked a 0111 to describe their reality in one sentence: nobody respects admin until something they care about requires admin to fix it — then you are briefly the most important person in the building. If you asked the same question to a 5811: deployments for MPs involve detainee operations, internment, and force protection missions that are distinct from garrison work in ways that are operationally significant. Neither would believe the other one. Both would be correct. Both branches will tell you theirs is the hardest. Neither will concede. This is tradition.

0111Marines
Administrative Specialist
Overall ratingNo reviews yet
Do It Again
Civilian Pay
$68K
5811Marines
Military Police
Overall ratingNo reviews yet
Do It Again
Civilian Pay
$72K
Head to Head
0111
5811
Getting In
ASVAB Line Scores
CL 90
GT 100MM 95
Clearance
Secret
Pay Grade
Enlisted
Enlisted
Enlistment Bonus
Up to $12,000
Training
Training Length
8 wk
10 wk
Pipeline Type
Marine Corps Recruit Training
Recruit Training + MCT + Military Police School
Training Location
MCB Camp Lejeune, NC
Fort Leonard Wood, MO
Day-to-Day
Promotion Speed
Average
Deployment Tempo
Moderate
Career Field
Administration
Military Police
After You Get Out
Civilian Median Pay
$68K
$72K
Top Civilian Career
Human Resources Specialists
Police and Sheriff's Patrol Officers
Credentials Earned
4 certs
DoD 4-Year Investment
$322K

After the Uniform

The part the recruiter skips: what each job actually translates to once you're a civilian — and what it pays.

0111Administrative Specialist
Civilian Median Pay
$68K/yr
What It Becomes on the Outside
Human Resources SpecialistsStrong
Job market: Average (6%)
$68K
Office ClerksStrong
Word Processors and TypistsStrong
Secretaries and Administrative AssistantsRelated
Job market: Declining (-9%)
$45K
5811Military Police
Civilian Median Pay
$72K/yr
What It Becomes on the Outside
Police and Sheriff's Patrol OfficersStrong
Job market: Faster than average (5%)
$72K
Police and Sheriff's Patrol OfficersStrong
Correctional Officers and JailersRelated
Job market: Declining (-6%)
$50K
Private Detectives and InvestigatorsRelated
Job market: Faster than average (6%)
$59K
Credentials You Walk Away With
Military police certificationDefensive tacticsFirearms qualificationsHAZMAT awareness (for traffic accidents)

Salary data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics Occupational Employment and Wage Statistics program. A guide, not a guarantee.

Recruiter vs. Reality

The pitch versus what people who actually did the job report back.

0111Administrative Specialist
What the Recruiter Says

Admin Marines keep the entire personnel system running — pay, records, unit diaries, correspondence, everything that makes a Marine Corps unit function as an organization rather than just a group of people with guns. The organizational and records management skills translate directly to office administration, HR, and government service careers, and the hours are significantly more predictable than the infantry.

What It's Actually Like

You will become intimately familiar with MOL, MCTFS, unit diaries, and the specific formatting requirements of every administrative document the Marine Corps has ever invented. You are the person everyone comes to when their pay is wrong, their leave was rejected, or their award package disappeared into the administrative void. Nobody respects admin until something they care about requires admin to fix it — then you are briefly the most important person in the building. The work is repetitive, detail-intensive, and chronically thankless, but the hours are genuinely better than most MOSs and you will never hump a mortar baseplate up a mountain. The civilian translation is strong for office management, HR assistant, and government administrative positions. If you can navigate the Marine Corps personnel system without losing your mind, corporate HR will feel like a vacation.

5811Military Police
What the Recruiter Says

Serve as the law enforcement and force protection arm of the Marine Corps. Military Police conduct patrols, investigations, and security operations while developing law enforcement skills directly applicable to civilian police careers, federal law enforcement, and investigative agencies.

What It's Actually Like

You are going to write a lot of incident reports. The base gate is your beat and the population you're policing is specifically the demographic — young, male, underpaid, newly unconstrained by home oversight — that generates the most incident reports per capita of any group in America. You will deal with drunk and disorderly, domestic calls, DUIs, barracks thefts, and the occasional incident serious enough to involve NCIS. The MP company on a Marine base handles everything civilian police handle on a small city. The investigative track (CID/NCIS liaison work) is more interesting. Deployments for MPs involve detainee operations, internment, and force protection missions that are distinct from garrison work in ways that are operationally significant. The law enforcement certification is real. The college credit equivalency helps. Civilian PD and federal agencies actively recruit military police and the transition is well-worn. NCIS and FBI are realistic targets for high performers who do the work.

The Real Life

Same dimensions, side by side. 0111 on the left, 5811 on the right.

Daily Life
0111

5811

Base law enforcement patrols, gate guard duty, traffic enforcement, responding to incidents, conducting investigations, and security operations. You work shifts — expect nights, weekends, and holidays. Some billets include working military K-9, criminal investigations, or FAST (Fleet Anti-terrorism Security Team) company assignments.

Training / School
0111

5811

MP school at Fort Leonard Wood (MO) is a joint Army/Marine training environment. The course covers law enforcement procedures, criminal investigations, defensive tactics, firearms, and traffic management. It's essentially a police academy in a military setting.

Physical Demands
0111

5811

Moderate to high. Law enforcement work requires physical fitness for patrols, pursuits, restraint, and defensive tactics. You are expected to be in top physical condition at all times.

Where You'll Be Stationed
0111
5811
Camp Pendleton (CA)Camp Lejeune (NC)MCB HawaiiQuantico (VA)Various Marine Corps installations
The Honest Truth
0111

5811

Military police is one of the few MOSs with a nearly one-to-one civilian career translation. You do real law enforcement: patrol, respond to calls, investigate crimes, and enforce traffic laws. The recruiter will tell you it's a great path to civilian law enforcement, and that's true — police departments, sheriff's offices, and federal agencies all recruit heavily from military MP ranks. What they won't tell you: gate guard duty is tedious and thankless, shift work disrupts your life, and some Marines in other MOSs will give you grief for being "the police." The specialized billets — FAST company, CID, K-9 — are where the best training and experience live. Push for those assignments. The post-military career path is clear: local law enforcement, federal agencies, private security, or corporate security management.

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