1810 vs IC
Engineering Duty Officer (USN) vs Interior Communications Electrician (USN)
Same Navy, same uniform that changes every 4 years, completely different professional realities behind the identical haircuts.
If you asked a 1810 to describe their reality in one sentence: civilian transition is exceptional — defense contractors (HII, General Dynamics, BAE Systems), NAVSEA, and private shipbuilding firms pay $130-180K for program managers and engineers with ED experience. If you asked the same question to a IC: the sound-powered phone system — which is exactly what it sounds like and runs on no external power — is your domain, along with the general announcing system (1MC), the gyrocompass systems, the steering gear, and the ship's interior control circuits. Neither would believe the other one. Both would be correct. The person who designed the recruiting poster for both of these probably did neither.
After the Uniform
The part the recruiter skips: what each job actually translates to once you're a civilian — and what it pays.
Salary data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics Occupational Employment and Wage Statistics program. A guide, not a guarantee.
Recruiter vs. Reality
The pitch versus what people who actually did the job report back.
“As an Engineering Duty Officer, you'll lead the design, construction, maintenance, and modernization of the Navy's fleet — applying advanced engineering expertise to the most complex naval systems on Earth. You'll manage shipbuilding programs, oversee fleet sustainment, and shape the future of naval engineering with a postgraduate education fully funded by the Navy.”
You are an Engineering Duty Officer, which means you're the Navy's designated engineering nerd with a commission. While other officers drive ships and fly planes, you design, build, maintain, and modernize them. Your portfolio includes naval architecture, systems engineering, program management, and the kind of technical oversight that keeps billion-dollar ship classes from becoming billion-dollar mistakes. You'll spend time in shipyards watching your designs get built (and discovering what the welders think of your blueprints), in program offices managing acquisition budgets that exceed some countries' GDP, and in labs testing systems that won't see a fleet for a decade. The ED community is small and senior-heavy — most EDOs are lateral transfers from URL communities who decided they wanted to build ships instead of drive them. Your engineering credentials are real: the Navy typically sends you for a master's in naval architecture, mechanical engineering, or systems engineering at MIT, Naval Postgraduate School, or equivalent. You will know more about how a ship actually works than the captain who drives it. Civilian transition is exceptional — defense contractors (HII, General Dynamics, BAE Systems), NAVSEA, and private shipbuilding firms pay $130-180K for program managers and engineers with ED experience.
“You'll maintain the interior communications systems that ships depend on for operations and damage control — the 1MC announcing system, sound-powered phones, gyrocompasses, and the internal electronic networks that connect the bridge to every compartment. It's not a glamorous rating, but when the 1MC fails during an emergency, the IC tech is suddenly the most important person on the ship. The electronic maintenance breadth covers shipboard communications, navigation instruments, and internal systems that develop genuine troubleshooting skills. Commercial maritime electronics maintenance, building management systems, and industrial communications infrastructure careers are accessible, and the USCG licensing pathway for commercial vessel electronics is open to IC veterans.”
IC is the rate that owns every communications system that stays inside the ship, which is a more complete description of your career than it sounds. The sound-powered phone system — which is exactly what it sounds like and runs on no external power — is your domain, along with the general announcing system (1MC), the gyrocompass systems, the steering gear, and the ship's interior control circuits. General quarters means your systems are what allows the bridge to talk to damage control, CIC to talk to engineering, and the CO to know if the ship is being fought or sinking. You will trace cable runs through spaces that were designed before the systems that use them, hunt intermittent faults in wiring that has been aboard since the ship was commissioned, and maintain a gyrocompass system on a gas turbine destroyer that requires alignment precision measured in fractions of a degree. The civilian maritime industry values IC skills for merchant vessels and passenger ships where interior communications systems require the same institutional knowledge. Shore installations need IC technicians for their communication infrastructure. The industrial controls background translates to building automation and facilities management. It is not a flashy rate. The ship does not work without you, which is the only endorsement that matters.
The Real Life
Same dimensions, side by side. 1810 on the left, IC on the right.
Naval engineering — managing ship design, construction, maintenance, and modernization programs. EDOs are the Navy's engineering program managers, overseeing the technical lifecycle of ships, submarines, and systems. Most work is at NAVSEA headquarters, shipyards, or Systems Commands. The work is technical, policy-heavy, and program management-oriented.
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EDO conversion typically requires a graduate engineering degree (NPS or civilian institution). Officers convert to EDO from operational communities (SWO, submarine, aviation) after their initial fleet tours. The EDO community selects officers with strong engineering backgrounds and operational experience.
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Low. Engineering management and technical oversight work. Standard Navy PT requirements.
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Engineering Duty Officer is the Navy's technical engineering community, and it's a deliberately different career path from the operational URL communities. The recruiter won't discuss EDO because it's a lateral transfer community, not an accession source. Here's what matters: EDOs manage the programs that design, build, and maintain every ship and submarine in the fleet. The work is intellectually demanding, technically complex, and consequential — but it lacks the operational excitement of SWO, submarine, or aviation careers. The quality of life is significantly better: shore-based, regular hours, and Washington D.C.-area assignments. The civilian career translation is exceptional: defense program management, systems engineering, and technical leadership positions at $130-200K+ are common for retired EDOs. If you're an engineer who wants to stay technical rather than operational, EDO is the right path. Just know that it requires operational experience first — you earn EDO through performance in the fleet.
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