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MOS COMPARISON

0111 vs 2651

Administrative Specialist (USMC) vs Intelligence Surveillance Reconnaissance (ISR) Systems Engineer (USMC)

Intel

Two Marine MOS codes that went through the same boot camp and have agreed on absolutely nothing since graduation day.

[Documentary narrator voice] "In the Marines, a career field known as 0111 — Administrative Specialist — reveals itself: nobody respects admin until something they care about requires admin to fix it — then you are briefly the most important person in the building. Take the other fork in the road: The 2651 — Intelligence Surveillance Reconnaissance (ISR) Systems Engineer — tells a different story entirely: sTIG compliance, CAC authentication, STIGs that haven't been updated since the Obama administration — these are your daily companions." [Fade to black. Credits list a therapist.] Two MOS codes compared honestly on the internet. The military didn't build this. Veterans did.

0111Marines
Administrative Specialist
Overall ratingNo reviews yet
Do It Again
Civilian Pay
$68K
2651Marines
Intelligence Surveillance Reconnaissance (ISR) Systems Engineer
Overall ratingNo reviews yet
Do It Again
Civilian Pay
$104K
Head to Head
0111
2651
Getting In
ASVAB Line Scores
CL 90
EL 100GT 105
Clearance
TS/SCI
Pay Grade
Enlisted
Enlisted
Enlistment Bonus
Up to $20,000
Training
Training Length
8 wk
14 wk
Pipeline Type
Marine Corps Recruit Training
Recruit Training
Training Location
MCB Camp Lejeune, NC
Corry Station, Pensacola, FL
Day-to-Day
Promotion Speed
Fast
Deployment Tempo
Low
Career Field
Administration
Signals Intelligence
After You Get Out
Civilian Median Pay
$68K
$104K
Top Civilian Career
Human Resources Specialists
Intelligence Analysts
Credentials Earned
4 certs

After the Uniform

The part the recruiter skips: what each job actually translates to once you're a civilian — and what it pays.

0111Administrative Specialist
Civilian Median Pay
$68K/yr
What It Becomes on the Outside
Human Resources SpecialistsStrong
Job market: Average (6%)
$68K
Office ClerksStrong
Word Processors and TypistsStrong
Secretaries and Administrative AssistantsRelated
Job market: Declining (-9%)
$45K
2651Intelligence Surveillance Reconnaissance (ISR) Systems Engineer
Civilian Median Pay
$104K/yr
What It Becomes on the Outside
Intelligence AnalystsRelated
Job market: Average (4%)
$104K
Operations Research AnalystsRelated
Job market: Much faster than average (23%)
$84K
Data ScientistsRelated
Job market: Much faster than average (35%)
$108K
Credentials You Walk Away With
TS/SCI clearance (maintained)CompTIA Security+CISSP (encouraged)Network administration certifications

Salary data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics Occupational Employment and Wage Statistics program. A guide, not a guarantee.

Recruiter vs. Reality

The pitch versus what people who actually did the job report back.

0111Administrative Specialist
What the Recruiter Says

Admin Marines keep the entire personnel system running — pay, records, unit diaries, correspondence, everything that makes a Marine Corps unit function as an organization rather than just a group of people with guns. The organizational and records management skills translate directly to office administration, HR, and government service careers, and the hours are significantly more predictable than the infantry.

What It's Actually Like

You will become intimately familiar with MOL, MCTFS, unit diaries, and the specific formatting requirements of every administrative document the Marine Corps has ever invented. You are the person everyone comes to when their pay is wrong, their leave was rejected, or their award package disappeared into the administrative void. Nobody respects admin until something they care about requires admin to fix it — then you are briefly the most important person in the building. The work is repetitive, detail-intensive, and chronically thankless, but the hours are genuinely better than most MOSs and you will never hump a mortar baseplate up a mountain. The civilian translation is strong for office management, HR assistant, and government administrative positions. If you can navigate the Marine Corps personnel system without losing your mind, corporate HR will feel like a vacation.

2651Intelligence Surveillance Reconnaissance (ISR) Systems Engineer
What the Recruiter Says

You'll administer the classified intelligence networks that Marine SIGINT and special intelligence operations run on — managing servers, systems, and infrastructure that nobody outside the community knows exists. The TS/SCI clearance combined with hands-on classified systems administration puts you in one of the highest-demand categories for defense contractors and IC agencies. When a cleared sysadmin job posts, the hiring manager is thinking about you.

What It's Actually Like

It's classified IT work, which means every frustration of regular sysadmin life is multiplied by the bureaucratic overhead of operating in a classified environment. STIG compliance, CAC authentication, STIGs that haven't been updated since the Obama administration — these are your daily companions. You will fix the printer. You will run cable through spaces that were not designed for cable. You will be the helpdesk for people who have clearances but cannot figure out their CAC PIN. The work that isn't that is genuinely interesting and matters. The clearance is worth real money on the outside; cleared cloud engineers and cyber professionals with IC-environment experience are a specific and well-compensated market segment. Get AWS or Azure certifications before you separate — the clearance plus cloud certs is a combination that defense contractors will move quickly on.

The Real Life

Same dimensions, side by side. 0111 on the left, 2651 on the right.

Daily Life
0111

2651

Administering classified intelligence networks, managing Special Intelligence (SI) systems, maintaining servers and workstations, and ensuring network security on TS/SCI systems. You are the IT backbone for Marine Corps intelligence operations. The work requires security clearances, attention to detail, and systems administration skills.

Training / School
0111

2651

Training at Corry Station (Pensacola, FL) and follow-on schools cover classified network administration, security protocols, and intelligence system management. The training pipeline is several months and includes both intelligence fundamentals and IT systems administration.

Physical Demands
0111

2651

Low. This is a desk-based systems administration role. You maintain Marine Corps physical standards but the job itself is in server rooms and operations centers.

Where You'll Be Stationed
0111
2651
Camp Pendleton (CA)Camp Lejeune (NC)Fort Meade (MD)Quantico (VA)Various intelligence sites
The Honest Truth
0111

2651

The 2651 is arguably the single most marketable enlisted MOS in the Marine Corps for post-military earning potential. You combine a TS/SCI clearance with hands-on IT systems administration experience on classified networks — a combination that defense contractors, intelligence agencies, and cybersecurity firms will pay six figures for on day one after separation. The recruiter has no idea this MOS exists. The work itself is straightforward sysadmin: keeping classified networks running, managing accounts, patching systems, and troubleshooting. It's not glamorous but it's stable, and the career ceiling is enormous. The only catch: you're still a Marine, so expect PT, field exercises, and the occasional reminder that your primary MOS is "Marine rifleman." Stack certifications, maintain your clearance, and you will never struggle to find work.

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