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MOS COMPARISON

MR vs AB

Machinery Repairman (USN) vs Aviation Boatswain's Mate (USN)

Intel

Two Sailors walk into liberty port. One's been staring at a radar. The other's been wrestling an engine. Both need a beer with equal desperation.

If MR had a dating profile, it would mention: it's a real machinist trade — precision work in a shipboard machine shop — and the skills transfer directly to civilian machining. If AB had one: jet blast, spinning propellers, arresting cables under tension, and aircraft moving in every direction — all on a pitching deck in the middle of the ocean. One military. Two MOS codes that swiped right on completely different career experiences. The fact that this comparison exists is, itself, the kind of transparency the military hasn't figured out yet.

MRNavy
Machinery Repairman
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Civilian Pay
ABNavy
Aviation Boatswain's Mate
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Civilian Pay
Head to Head
MR
AB
Getting In
ASVAB Line Scores
VE_AR_MK_AS 205
VE_AR_MK_AS 184
Clearance
Secret
Pay Grade
Enlisted
Enlisted
Training
Training Length
18 wk
7 wk
Training Location
Great Lakes, IL
NATTC Pensacola, FL
Day-to-Day
Promotion Speed
Slow
Deployment Tempo
Moderate
Career Field
Aviation
After You Get Out
Credentials Earned
5 certs

After the Uniform

The part the recruiter skips: what each job actually translates to once you're a civilian — and what it pays.

MRMachinery Repairman
Civilian Median Pay
/yr
Credentials You Walk Away With
USMAP (United Services Military Apprenticeship Program) — Machinist apprenticeship credits (translate directly to civilian journeyman credentials)NAVSEA/NAVAIR metrology and calibration qualifications (platform-dependent)Precision measurement tool qualifications (micrometers, bore gauges, CMM operation at some billets)Surface Warfare (SW) device (if aboard a combatant hull)CNC machining qualifications (at select IMA/shipyard billets)
ABAviation Boatswain's Mate
Civilian outcome data coming soon for AB.

Salary data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics Occupational Employment and Wage Statistics program. A guide, not a guarantee.

Recruiter vs. Reality

The pitch versus what people who actually did the job report back.

MRMachinery Repairman
What the Recruiter Says

Be the Navy's shipboard machinist — running lathes, mills, and grinders to fabricate and repair the precision metal parts a ship needs at sea.

What It's Actually Like

When the supply chain can't reach you mid-ocean, you make the part. It's a real machinist trade — precision work in a shipboard machine shop — and the skills transfer directly to civilian machining.

ABAviation Boatswain's Mate
What the Recruiter Says

You'll work on the flight deck of an aircraft carrier — one of the most dangerous and adrenaline-fueled workplaces on earth. ABs launch and recover fighter jets, manage jet fuel operations, and direct aircraft weighing 60,000+ pounds in spaces tighter than a parking lot. It's the closest thing to a controlled disaster the Navy runs every day.

What It's Actually Like

The flight deck will try to kill you. Jet blast, spinning propellers, arresting cables under tension, and aircraft moving in every direction — all on a pitching deck in the middle of the ocean. The work is physically brutal, the hours are relentless during flight ops, and the safety stakes are absolute. One wrong step and you're a statistic. The ABs who thrive love the intensity and take genuine pride in the fact that nothing flies without them. The civilian airport and aviation fueling industry hires from this background, but nothing on the outside matches carrier flight ops.

The Real Life

Same dimensions, side by side. MR on the left, AB on the right.

Daily Life
MR

On a tender or repair ship: you run the machine shop, fabricating parts and repairing components for every other ship in the task group that needs something the supply system cannot produce overnight. Job orders come in, you read the blueprint or damaged sample, set up the machine, and cut the part. Quality matters — a bad bearing race or a mis-bored shaft sleeve fails at sea. Shore-based billets (shipyards, IMAs) are shift-work industrial environments: scheduled job orders, stricter safety programs, time cards, and union-adjacent culture. Less adventure, more predictability.

AB

Training / School
MR

A School at Naval Station Great Lakes (IL) runs approximately 6-8 months. You cover precision measurement and metrology, blueprint reading and GD&T (geometric dimensioning and tolerancing), lathe and milling machine operation, surface grinding, drill press work, metallurgy basics, and heat treatment. The curriculum is legitimately technical — more community college machining program than basic military training. You will spend real time cutting metal and making parts to tolerance before you graduate.

AB

Physical Demands
MR

Moderate. Machine shop work keeps you on your feet all day operating lathes, milling machines, grinders, and drill presses. You handle metal stock, manage coolant and cutting oil, and deal with real injury hazards — chips, sharp edges, rotating equipment, and the occasional heavy casting. Hearing protection is mandatory and still not always enough.

AB

Where You'll Be Stationed
MR
Norfolk Naval Shipyard / NNSY (Portsmouth, VA)Puget Sound Naval Shipyard / PSNS (Bremerton, WA)Pearl Harbor Naval Shipyard / PHNSY (Pearl Harbor, HI)IMAs (Intermediate Maintenance Activities) at major fleet concentration areas (Norfolk, San Diego, Yokosuka)Ship Tenders / Repair Ships (AS-class, AR-class) forward-deployed to Bahrain, Yokosuka, Souda Bay
AB
The Honest Truth
MR

Machinery Repairman is a genuine trade — you learn precision machining from the ground up and develop real craftsmanship that the civilian workforce values. The recruiter probably does not know the rate well enough to sell it, which cuts both ways. Here is what they will not tell you: the MR community has been shrinking for years as the Navy shifts maintenance from at-sea tenders to shore-based depots and contracted shipyards. Your odds of spending your career on a glamorous surface combatant are low — you are more likely to work in an IMA or shipyard alongside civil service machinists, doing industrial shift work that feels less military and more factory. That is not necessarily bad. The civilian translation for MR is genuinely strong: precision machinists are in demand in aerospace, defense manufacturing, and energy, especially with a TS-eligible clearance and USMAP credentials. But you have to translate it actively — "Navy MR" on a resume does not sell itself the way IT or nuclear propulsion does. Do the work to articulate what you built and to what tolerance, and you will have real options when you separate.

AB

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